படிக்கச் சொல்லி பலமான சிபாரிசோடு எனக்கு நண்பர்கள் அனுப்பும் சுட்டிகளை அவ்வப்போது திறந்து என்னதான் எழுதியிருக்கிறது என்று பார்ப்பேன். இன்று ஒரு நல்ல கட்டுரை கிடைத்தது. அதிலிருந்து –
//அந்தமான் தீவில் தமிழ் வளர்ப்பதில் டாக்டர். XYZ அண்ணாச்சிக்கு மிகுந்த ஆர்வம். வருடம் 9999 மார்ச் மாதம் 25 அன்று தமிழ்க் கவிஞர்களைக் கப்பலில் அழைத்துச் சென்று, அந்தக் கப்பலிலேயே ஒரு கவியரங்கம் நடத்திச் சாதனை படைத்தவர் டாக்டர் XYZ அவர்கள். //
பல தமிழ்க் கவிஞர்களைக் கப்பலில் அந்தமான் அழைத்துப் போனது போற்றுதற்கு உரிய தமிழ்த் தொண்டுதான்.
ஆனால் திரும்பக் கொண்டு வந்து விட்டுவிட்டாராமே!
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அடுத்த பிறந்த நாளுக்குப் படம் பிடிக்கும்போது
1) மூக்குக் கண்ணாடி பவர் கூடி இருக்கும்
2) தலையில் இன்னும் கொஞ்சம் வெள்ளி முளைத்திருக்கும்
3) சட்டையில் ஈரம் உலர்ந்திருக்கும்
அந்தப் படமும் கருப்பு வெளுப்பில் தான் இருக்கும். நிறங்களை விட இயல்பானவை அவை.
புகைப்படம் எடுத்தவர் : அஷ்வின் முருகன்
Suresh Kannan சார், வாயில் ஒரு சிகரெட் தொங்கிக் கொண்டிருந்தால், வருங்கால இலக்கிய சிற்றிதழ்களில் கெத்தாக பிரசுரமாகும் வாய்ப்புண்டு.
EraMurukan Ramasami இனிமேல் சிகரெட் பிடிக்க ஆரம்பிச்சா, சிற்றிதழ் என்ன பேரிதழிலேயே வரும் – கட்டம் கட்டி
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இன்று பொழுது புலர்ந்தது யாம் செய்த தவத்தால்.
வாக்கிங் முடித்து வரும்போது எங்கள் காம்ரேட் பாலனின் அருமை மகள் சுஜாதா அவர்களை சந்தித்தேன். கிட்டத்தட்ட பதினைந்து வருடம் சென்று நிகழும் சந்திப்பு. அண்மையில், காம்ரேட் பாலனின் பேரன் (சுஜாதா அவர்களின் மகன்) தன் சிநேகிதியான வியத்னாமியப் பெண்ணைக் காதலித்துக் கைபிடித்திருக்க மகிழ்ச்சியான சேதியைச் சொன்னார் சுஜாதா. சாவகாசமாகச் சந்தித்து இலக்கியமும், அரசியலும், குடும்ப நிகழ்வுகளும் பேச திட்டம்.
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மன்மோகன் சர்க்காருக்குப் போ(கு)ங்காலம் வந்துவிட்டதென்றும் அடுத்து மோதி/நிதீஷ்/முலாயம்-லல்லு-அகிலேஷ் பொற்கால ஆட்சியில் பாலும் தேனும் ஆறாகப் பெருக்கெடுத்து ஓடும் என்றும் நினைக்கிற நண்பர்கள் எனக்கு உண்டு. மன்மோகன் சர்க்காரோடு முன்னேற்றம் போம் என்று துக்கிக்கும் நண்பர்களும் உண்டுண்டு. காரத்தோ, எச்சூரியோ வர முடிந்தால் … என்று ஏங்கும் வெகு சில தோழர்களும் உண்டு. எல்லோருக்கும் இதை சமர்ப்பிக்கிறேன் (கணையாழியில் கஸ்தூரிரங்கன் சார் எழுதிய கவிதை).
கடவுளும் கவர்ன்மென்டும் ஒன்று
அதைத் தூற்றாதே:
பழி சேரும் உனக்கு
அதற்கு ஆயிரம் கண்கள்: காதுகள்
ஆனால், குறையென்றால்
பார்க்காது: கேட்காது
கை நீளும்: பதினாயிரம்
கேட்கும், பிடுங்கும்
தவமிருந்தால் கொடுக்கும்
கவர்மென்ட் பெரும் கடவுள்
அதைப் பழிக்காதே
பழித்தால்
வருவது
இன்னும்
அதிகம் கவர்ன்மென்ட்தான்.
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The PM Dr.MMS has lamented in Lok Sabha that frequent disruption of parliamentary proceedings is a cause for(foreign) investors losing confidence.
I am not sure whether Dr.Singh’s presumption is true.
Market sentiments do count but parliamentary walk-outs and shouting matches in the well of the house do not form a part of those sentiments. FM’s finance-talk or RBI directives do impact the market. The investment space is a vacuum without any trace of humanity.
In my narrow exposure to investment banking, I have observed Sensex soaring merrily while a huge Tsunami hit Tamilnadu coast resulting in heavy loss of life. In fact when the whole Tamilnadu was mourning the tragedy, only two happenings oblivious to the surroundings were going on – the December Katcheri season and brisk bourse trading in Chennai and the rest of India.
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Having said this, I agree with the PM on one count – we have the worst opposition. Session after session gets disrupted and comes to a close without any meaningful proceedings taking place. An unresponsive Government would get only such an irresponsible opposition.
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“Current account deficit may be above sustainable levels this year too.” – RBI Chairman (retiring)
“We will contain current account deficit to $70 billion or below this year and fully and safely finance it.” “(Finance Minister in the Parliament early this week)
..we allowed fiscal deficit to be breached and current account deficit to swell because of certain decisions that we took between 2009 and 2011. (Finance Minister in the Parliament)
Finance Minister (2099-2011) – the current President
In a war the sides are clearly drawn. In political polemic, I don’t know whether my right hand is with me.
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A few months ago, it was the retiring army chief. Now, there comes the central bank chairman laying down office… they all find their voices back when stepping out and take cudgels against the Government. I won’t be surprised to spot the bank chief in the second row of the crowd on the dais when Anna Hazare fasts next at Raj Ghat.
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அடி கொள்ளான் செண்டை.. அனுபவித்து வாயிக்கான் மாரார்
சென்னை மகாலிங்கபுரம் ஐயப்பன் – குருவாயூரப்பன் கோவில்
இன்று காலை 9:30 மணி (28.8.2013)
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I am alarmed and immensely pained to read this. May I invite observations from our friends Kalyanam Vijayan, Lakshmi Chitoor Subramaniam Ambai, Gnani Sankaran, Maalan, PAK anna Ananthakrishnan Pakshirajan …. and others please?
Consensual sex with minor not a crime, Delhi court says
Tines of India| Aug 26, 2013
Kapaleeswaran Venkataraman A minor is considered to be matured enough to consent for sex, but when it comes to rape he is treated differently. Jaundiced justice
26 August at 07:22 · Unlike · 2
Chandramowleeswaran Viswanathan Protection of Children from Sexual Offences (POCSO) Act க்குதானே சார்
அதான் ஐ பி சி ல குத்தம்னு சொல்லிருக்கே.. அது போதுமே
26 August at 07:26 · Unlike · 1
EraMurukan Ramasami is that enough Mouli?
26 August at 07:29 · Like
Chandramowleeswaran Viswanathan ஐ பி சி 375 ல
A man is said to commit “rape” if he—
(a) penetrates his penis, to any extent, into the vagina, mouth, urethra or anus of a woman or makes her to do so with him or any other person; or
(b) inserts, to any extent, any object or a part of the body, not being the penis, into the vagina, the urethra or anus of a woman or makes her to do so with him or any other person; or
(c) manipulates any part of the body of a woman so as to cause penetration into the vagina, urethra, anus or any part of body of such woman or makes her to do so with him or any other person; or
(d) applies his mouth to the vagina, anus, urethra of a woman or makes her to do so with him or any other person, under the circumstances falling under any of the following seven descriptions:—
First.—Against her will.
Secondly.—Without her consent.
Thirdly.—With her consent, when her consent has been obtained by putting her or any person in whom she is interested, in fear of death or of hurt.
Fourthly.—With her consent, when the man knows that he is not her husband and that her consent is given because she believes that he is another man to whom she is or believes herself to be lawfully married.
Fifthly.—With her consent when, at the time of giving such consent, by reason of unsoundness of mind or intoxication or the administration by him personally or through another of any stupefying or unwholesome substance, she is unable to understand the nature and consequences of that to which she gives consent.
Sixthly.—With or without her consent, when she is under eighteen years of age.
Seventhly.—When she is unable to communicate consent.
26 August at 07:29 · Unlike · 3
EraMurukan Ramasami more than that, I am unable to comprehend the usage – ‘consensual sex with minor’. Even Contract Act declares any contract entered into with a minor null and void.
26 August at 07:32 · Like · 2
Chandramowleeswaran Viswanathan ஒரு டெல்லி கோர்ட்னு சொல்லிருக்கு எந்த கோர்ட்னு சொல்லல.. அதுவுமில்லாமல் இந்த் சங்கதிகளில் மீடியா ஒழுங்கா ந்யூஸ் எழுத மாட்டான்
நள்ளிரவில் கருணாநிதி கைது செய்யப்பட்டபோது, அவருக்கு மருத்துவ பரிசோதனை செய்யாமல் சிறைக்கு அழைத்து செல்லப்பட அதைக் கண்டித்து அவர் சிறைக்கு உள்ளே செல்லாமல் வாசலில் உட்கார்ந்தார்
இதை நீதிபதி அப்சர்வ் செய்து விட்டு, முன்னாள் முதல்வரை இப்படி பிச்சைக்காரர் போல சிறை வாசலில் உட்கார வைத்திருப்பது கண்டிக்கத்தக்கது என ரிமான்ட் நோட்டில் எழுதினார்
இதை ஜெ ஆதரவு மீடியா செய்தி வெளியிட்டது எப்படி
கருணாநிதி பிச்சைக்காரர்.. நீதிபதி கருத்து
26 August at 07:36 · Unlike · 4
Prabhuram Ramachandran Legal system was the last pillar of hope and many a times they did a wonderful job. But, recent times we witness more and more judgements that are pronounced with the aim of making news than any real solution. This one appears to be for the same purpose.
26 August at 07:45 via mobile · Unlike · 1
Ananthakrishnan Pakshirajan Unless one reads the entire judgement and its context, it is difficult to comment on this. I am of the view that POCSO Act is flawed – like most of the acts that had been passed in this land are. It doesn’t take care of the rural reality of India, especially North India. In many communities, a girl is married off when she turns 15. In Delhi, the lady who is ironing our cloths has just performed the marriage of her grand daughter who has turned 15. It has been calculated that around 39000 child marriages happen everyday in India, which means that one out of every two marriages is a child marriage. Every such marriage is against the law of the land. Thus, there is no legal solution to this practice. Education and especially woman’s education is the only answer.
26 August at 07:55 · Unlike · 4
Chandramowleeswaran Viswanathan Protection of Children from Sexual Offences (POCSO) Act குறித்து வாசித்த போது,, இதற்கான ஸ்பெஷல் கோர்ட்கள் இருப்பதாகத் தெரிகிறது..
பிஏகே சார் சொன்னது போல தீர்ப்பை முழுசுமாக வாசிக்க வேண்டும்.. அதுமட்டுமில்லை.. செஷன்ஸ் நீதிபதி அந்தஸ்த்தில் இருக்கும் ஒரு ஸ்பெஷல் கோர்ட் தீர்ப்பு precedence அமைக்கப் போவதில்லை
இந்த விவகாரத்திலே ஹைகோர்ட்கள், சுப்ரீம் கோர்ட் கருத்துகள் வந்திருக்க வாய்ப்பில்லை காரணம் இந்த சட்டம் ரொம்ப புதுசு
இந்த சட்டத்தினை ராஜ்ய சபாவும் லோக்சபாவும் அங்கீகரித்த பின் வெளியிடப்பட்ட ப்ரஸ் நோட் (http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=84409) ல்
Sexual offences are currently covered under different sections of IPC. The IPC does not provide for all types of sexual offences against children and, more importantly, does not distinguish between adult and child victims.
என்ற புராதான அபஸ்வரம் காணப்படுகிறது
இவர்கள் இப்படியாக ஐ பி சி ஐ குறை சொல்லிக் கொண்டு வரும் சட்டங்கள்..அதன் வழியான வழக்குகள் எல்லாவற்றிலும் read with IPC என்று சார்ஜ் ஷீட் தயார் செய்து.. ஐ பி சி முத்திரை குத்திதான் அனுப்புகிறார்கள்
சுளுக்கெடுக்க ஐ பி சி போதும்.. சுளுக்கு எடுக்ற ஆள் தான் சரியா இருக்கணும்
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Simmam Raghu i agree with Mr. Ananthkrishnan. The human body is kindled with hormones even at tender ages and the girls who attain puberty and who are unable to control their sexual urge due to their growing etc., are more prone to this experience. The worst part of it is that they are lured by men who try to exploit this hapless girls. They make some false promises and take advantage of them. Unless an awakening is spread through education, this menace could not be controlled.
26 August at 08:08 · Unlike · 2
Kalyan Kumar I believe more and more acts which used to be monitores thru family system of values and traditions are being slowly given away to judiciary for control.This is the starting point of all trouble. Inculcation of discipline and values is the first step that would go a long way to avert these ,Judiciary can not be blamed as they ggo by circumstantial evidences of the case and the pressures of the society at a given point of time.
26 August at 08:58 · Unlike · 1
Lakshmi Chitoor Subramaniam There are many things involved here. In the first place there are child marriages taking place. I have come back from Rajasthan a few months ago where a mass child marriage took place and the police could do nothing. And secondly and more importantly, teenage girls who are minors have begun to take decisions regarding their bodies in big cities like Mumbai. The question the sessions judge has rightly asked is whether we leave the decision of the bodies of the girls entirely in the hands of the police. A minor girl, even if she has physical needs may not be mature enough to deal with her body. The question is do we tell her this through education and creating awareness or do we just criminalise all sexual decisions taken by her? Banning sex with a minor girl per se will not provide a solution. I think each case has to be dealt with on its own merit.
26 August at 09:06 · Like · 4
Satyanarayana Athmuri t is very disturbing. What does this imply – If a girl (below 18) consents for “sex outside marriage” it is legal. But if the same girl “consents for marriage – and have sex” it is illegal. Very weird.
26 August at 11:40 · Edited · Unlike · 1
Sampath Sowrirajan The question of “minor” really rankles. If such an observbation was made in court it goes against “sixthly in Mouli’s list, leaving no room for interpretation. Furthermore, mouli’s list does not include “மாமா சாக்லேட் கொடுத்தா !”
26 August at 10:18 · Unlike · 1
Prabhuram Ramachandran Also take a high profile case like Asram Bapu. If at all what he did was true and if at all he is on verge of getting trapped, he will pay money to the parents of the 15 year old girl, threaten them with take it or leave it, and force them to make it sound consensual. We will be back to the good old panchayat days!
26 August at 10:21 · Unlike · 1
Ananthakrishnan Pakshirajan Oh, no. We are reading too much into this. As I said earlier 50% of the marriages in India are between a girl less than 18 years old and probably an adult male. Asaram Bapu and others hog the news but they are not part of the real story.they will keep doing what they are doing, whatever be the law. We are trivialising the problem by making it sound sensational.
26 August at 10:31 · Unlike · 2
Prabhuram Ramachandran Ananthakrishnan Pakshirajan Hope we are actually reading too much into this. The problem is in setting precedence!
26 August at 10:36 · Unlike · 1
Ananthakrishnan Pakshirajan No. Firstly lower court judgments will not be setting precedence. Secondly the issue is more complex than the case under discussion. By quoting sensational cases we are only distorting the issue. There is no point getting indignant. Unfortunately, the Indian rural sensibilities happen to be different from the urban ones.
26 August at 10:56 · Unlike · 2
Kalyanam Vijayan This case appears to be reporting error. The prosecution case is pocso act.The complaint is girl missing accused victim version marriage between 22 m and 15 female living together as husband and wife. Under hindu law though marriage below 18 for girl and 21 for boy is forbidden by prnciples of factum valet under customary Hindu law it is not treated as void. There is no complaint of abduction or petition for custody by mother.she also said to have accepted. Consent is immaterial under ipc 375 or 376 even with cons
ent it is rape if the girl is below 16. However there is no prosecution under ipc alleging rape. The answer is if prosecution is also under s376 ipc the pocso act alone has no bar to proceed under ipc in strict letters of law. But if you bring in mensrea guily mind and customary law of approving young age marriage the allegation of rape and statement of reporting it is not a rape will not cause concern. The law to be applied secure the girl and give it to custody of mother until 18 there after permit them to live as Husband and wife
26 August at 11:08 via mobile · Unlike · 3
Sampath Sowrirajan consensual is most of the time sensual con.
26 August at 14:10 · Unlike · 2
Srikanth Nagarajan This is definitely a passing reference in a case which may have a very specific scenario.
26 August at 19:06 via mobile · Unlike · 1
Ramasubramanian Muthukamatchi do not alarm take it easy sir,the reported observation based on a particular facts of a case and it is not a judicial precedence
26 August at 23:16 · Unlike · 2
EraMurukan Ramasami Thanks for all the perspectives expressed here. I cannot but agree with our friends and would like to ignore this as a ‘reporting error’ or ‘mistake of law’. None the less, I still wonder what is the locus standi of POCSO if it is in contradiction with IPC even to a smaller extent (is ‘ultra vires’ the right term?)
27 August at 07:03 · Edited · Like · 1
Kalyanam Vijayan There is no terminology of ultravires when we examine cognate act. In criminal law an act or omission may attract more than one act. If so every such act can be independently proceeded with. S34 of pocso act enables that. In that case there was no charge sheet at all under IPC. Our sense of emotion may justify so many acts, but law functions compartmentally. There is no Amirthanjan kind of sarva nivarani in law. Era mu as a writer certainly have sesitivity on many social issues without any limits. But does not function in that way. You need a diff mind set to understand the functioning of law.
27 August at 08:33 via mobile · Unlike · 3
Kalyanam Vijayan An act can be ultravires only to constitutional law if the act is challenged on the touchstone of constitutional law. When two acts are compared we call it inconsistant with other law. So ultravires term is used only when we test the constitutionality of it.
27 August at 08:55 via mobile · Unlike · 2
Srikanth Nagarajan i understand this is not a classroom – can u please explain ultravires
27 August at 09:25 · Like
Kalyanam Vijayan Ultravires means beyond the powers. Under our legal system constitution is the supreme law. All laws are subject to constitutioal restriction. We have classification like central law where parliament alone pass law state law where state assemly alone can pass law and in some case cocurrently both cenre and state can pass law. Say suppose income tax which is the exclusive domain of centre, if a state pass a law on income tax we call it ultrvires to constitution. So if a law is passed against contitutional restriction we call it ultr vires (beyond the powers)
27 August at 09:39 via mobile · Unlike · 3
Kalyanam Vijayan If protection of children from sexual harressment Act which is a special law is in variance with general law IPC we dont call it ultravires to IPC. Because it is made within the powers. We say it is inconsistant. Normally court will not intrepret two acts which are inconsistant. They apply a rule of harmonius construction. To save both. Or they will read down the act.
27 August at 09:44 via mobile · Unlike · 3
Lakshmi Chitoor Subramaniam Thanks for these very clear and detailed explanations Kalyanam Vijayan. I thought ultravires was unwarranted –something not warranted by law but still passed for the sake of a specific need. But what you have said is clearer.
27 August at 11:54 · Unlike · 1
Subramaniam Sitaraman I read it with a heavy heart.The judge is passing a live granide in somebodys lap.As inflation increasees yong down trod female children will be suffering a lot.This will lead the country in to the hands of unscrupess people.A judge should not do undo to himself and to the society.
27 August at 15:06 · Unlike · 1
Vasantha Kumar Any contract with minor is invalid; so also any consent should also be deemed invalid. This logically follows that consent by the minor is invalid and …..Murug…. now there are so many news items which say that rape incidents should be severely dealt with! as though it is allowed in the past. Rape should always be severely dealth with. Why suddenly people are talking about it now? Laws are stringent but not maintained
28 August at 07:25 · Unlike · 2
Lakshmi Chitoor Subramaniam Vasantha Kumar, you are right but we are in a situation where younger girls are taking decisions about their bodies. The question is how does one deal with this? Do we criminalise it like child marriages which take place in any case despite stringent laws. It is not just a question of rape but also a question of sexual practices and mores of behaviour.
28 August at 07:30 · Unlike · 1
EraMurukan Ramasami thanks Kalyanam Vijayan sir. Thanks Ambai and other friends